The Geek Girls What Rule!
Mickey Schulz is the Geek Girl What Rules! She lives in Renton, WA (outside of Seattle) with the Geek Husband What Rules, six Cats What Rule, a Hedgehog What Rules, and a pretty awesome tank of tropical fish. She plays and writes RPGs, writes SF/F and horror, records the podcasts Geek Girls Rule! and the Geek Sisterhood (for Gaming Radio Network with Sophie Lagace). She also knits, cross-stitches, needlepoints, fences, goes to the gym, gardens and in her spare time has a full-time day job. She has also been the track head for Alternate Lifestyles programming at NorwesCon in the Seattle area for the last couple of years.
Danielle Ni Dhighe is a geek girl of long duration. She’s also queer in many different senses of the word, which inevitably leads her to seek out the different and the unique. Seeing Star Wars in 1977 was her first step on the Path of Geek, a journey that continues to this day and hopefully will continue for as long as she draws breath. Comic books (she has a collection approaching 7,000 issues), science fiction, and fantasy are her lifeblood, and she earns money to feed her geeky addictions by working in the field of technical support. She’s also a huge SF movie and TV fan, including, but not limited to Dr. Who, Torchwood, Buffy, and Battlestar Galactica.
Robert Greathouse said
I’ve been catching up on you podcast, I just got to episode 11, and I wanted to answer your question on what “lemon” means in fanfic. It’s watersports, urine play. It’s not my thing, but I understand it comes from the gay slang lemon party for watersports parties. The lemon party joke in 30 Rock was hilarious.
I also wanted to question you on your several discussions about men excluding women from gaming. First I agree that there is no good reason to marginalize women and their contributions. I wonder how you feel on just having single gender gatherings? Would you be ok with men excluding women from some activity not to marginalize, but to just have other men?
I love to hear a mention in the next episode, or feel free to email me, I’d be interested in discussing this and your thoughts on facets of evolutionary psychology.
geekgirlsrule said
Thanks for the heads up on “Lemon” I have a tendency to avoid fics if I can’t figure out what they are… It’s saner that way.
As for Evo Psych… I have a deep and abiding loathing for what passes for that particular “science” right now. It mostly amounts to attempting to excuse egregious behavior genetically, with which I am not down.
Robert Greathouse said
I agree that the use of evo psych to support statements like Johnny T’s is similar to the how the Nazi’s used eugenics. You like that, 0 to Nazi in one sentence? It’s just an excuse to argue “girls are icky, and I’m scared of them”.
But much like the basis of eugenics led to greater understanding and genetics as a whole. Evo pysch can lead to a greater understanding of the differences between men and women. Not that there are many, nor are they very important aside from medical concerns.
Using evo psych to claim women leaders would be more gentle, and kinder that male leaders is stereotyping women and marginalizing men. But it would seems that women work in groups without a clear leader a little better then most men. Women just seem to coordinate with less of the destructive posturing of men. There’s not less posturing, it’s just different.
In an alternate vein, the claim that men aren’t in touch with their feelings is an oversimplification. Men are not out of touch with their emotions, just like women aren’t dominated by their emotions. Each sex has a slightly different relationship with themselves and the world around them.
What are you thoughts on what I feel is a more nuanced view of evo psych?
Rose said
Sorry, I was just checking out your info here (I’m working on organizing my site and I want to link up some blogs I’ve enjoyed reading on comics and other geeky-things). Lemon does not mean watersports–at least not in most fanfic circles. It may very well come from gay slang but I can say that if I had read about golden showers in highschool I probably would have been scared for life.
In my experience a fanfic labled “lemon” means simply that there is sex–perhaps its a “plot? what plot?” aka “pwp” or maybe its just a fic that includes a “lemon” or sex scene. I haven’t seen it as often as I used to, but its very unspecific about the kinks that may be inside that lemon (most often I’ve found it to be relatively straight forward or vanilla). A “lime”, meanwhile, denotes implied sex–or a scene that goes right up to sex and then fades-to-black.
Again, I haven’t seen a fic labeled as “lemon” in quite some time, I no longer read the same fandoms as I used to, and this might have changed. But if you’re looking at an older archive that has “lemons” I’d take a look before running away(presuming you don’t mind a bit of sex in your reading).
Robert Greathouse said
Huh, must be one of those weird situations where two groups use the same slang word for very different meanings.