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Geek Girls Rule Greatest Hits #15 – Attracting Geek Girls Part II

Posted by geekgirlsrule on July 10, 2008

(Originally published at Media Gauntlet)

Okay, now that we have you all clean, good-smelling and well-dressed, you’re ready to find yourself a Geek Girl. Where do you look?

Anywhere you normally find Geek Boys: game stores, comic shops, book stores, in line for the latest Fantasy/Sci-Fi movie extravaganza, libraries, the anime section of your local video store, checking out the latest issue of Scientific American at the newsstand, Game Stop or any other electronics boutique.

So, you spot the Geek Girl. There she is, flipping through the latest issue of Uncanny X-Men, wearing a JTHM t-shirt. What do you do? How do you approach her?

“Hi, how are you?”
“Hi, you into the X-Men?”
“Hi, that issue is really awesome!”

Seriously, that’s it.

NEVER use any of those cheesy, lame pick up lines that “men’s” magazines like Maxim or Stuff keep trying to propagate. Don’t even think about saying the following:

“You must be tired. You’ve been running through my mind all day.”
“Did it hurt? Falling from heaven?”
“Do you know karate, because your body’s kicking.”

Trust me.  I’ve had all of the above lines, and countless more, used on me and my response generally sounds something like this:

“Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha… No.” (insert straight-faced emoticon here)

One other thing you do NOT want to do is imply that she is too good-looking or hot to be into whatever she’s obviously into. This is not a compliment, and it will get you shot down faster than an X-wing fighter outside the Death Star.

If you don’t want her to think you’re an ass, walk up, look at her face, and say, “Hi.” Do not stare at her tits. Do not try to touch her. Do not get all smarm-a-licious. Just speak to her as you would to any human being you didn’t want to fuck. Normal tone of voice. I know that for some of you stammering is unavoidable, and if you’re lucky she’ll find it as cute as I do. Make eye contact.

Once you get past the, “Hi, how are you?” stage, introduce yourself and ask her name. Make a little small talk, and then say, “I think you’re really pretty/attractive/neat/keen, would you like to get coffee some time?”

And I know that for many of you saying those words will be the hardest thing you have ever done in your entire life, harder even than reciting Hamlet in the original Klingon.

Prepare yourself for the eventuality that you will get shot down. Several girls will probably say no. Some will already have boyfriends, girlfriends or husbands. Some will be polite, some will be rude. Just be ready for that.

But some will say “yes.” Get her phone number or email address. Say thank you, feel free to continue the conversation, and in the next day or so, call or email to set up your coffee date. Try to restrain any victory dances until you are out of sight of said girl.

Okay, the coffee date is not a “date” per se, in my eyes. It’s more a of a pre-date, where the two of you talk and figure out if you want to actually go out on a “DATE” date.

On the coffee date, ask her questions about herself as well as talking about yourself. Also, talk TO her, not AT her. Go ahead and ask her what she’s into, be happy if you’re into the same things, do not make yucky faces if you’re not. Do not monopolize the conversation. Again, do NOT stare at her tits.

Be warned, while making it to the coffee date is a big step, it by no means guarantees a real date, nor does your treating for the coffee obligate her to date you, touch you or even speak to you again.

TOPICS TO AVOID
“All my exes are crazy.”

This is one you want to avoid (if you have exes) because either you’re a dick, or you make phenomenally poor choices, over and over and over. Neither of these things is a selling point. And the same goes for her. If all of her exes are crazy, this is a warning sign. You should probably thank her for a pleasant evening and then lose her number.

Past sexual experiences.
Coffee date, way too early for this conversation for most people. I say for most people, because I’ll talk about that to anyone anywhere after any amount of time. I have no shame. But most people do, and this has the potential to be a really awkward conversation killer.

Religion and Politics.
Apart from the most superficial of conversations about this. “I’m a Buddhist.” “Oh, wow, I’m Pagan.” Anything deeper than this is asking for trouble right off the bat. I mean, it’s good to know if you’re compatible on this level, but this is a touch early for that. Political and Spiritual differences are surmountable differences. I’m a Pagan married to a militant Atheist. It gets a little annoying, but it can be done.

However, if you are exceptionally rigid in this department, maybe it is good to get it out of the way early. I mean, if you’re a Puppy-raping, Baby-eating Republican* and she’s a Giver-Goddess, Liberal Earth Mother, odds are good that you’re NOT going to be able to get past it.

Other Women.
This includes you scoping out other girls, and her asking if you think she’s prettier than those other girls. Seriously. It is rude to scope out other chicks while you’re out with one, especially as early as the coffee date. And you don’t want to date someone who is going to ask you right off the bat, “Do you think I’m prettier than…?” And honestly, most Geek Girls won’t ask this. They might ask you if you think they’re better at Star Fleet Battles than that other girl, or guy, or whoever.

THE END OF THE COFFEE DATE.
Not getting a hug or kiss does not mean it didn’t go well. It may just mean that this girl is not casual about physical contact. Tell her you had a good time, and ask her if she’d like to go out again some time. Ask her if she’d like you to call/email. If she says yes, then hooray! Again, wait until you’re out of sight for any victory dances.

If she says no, then thank her for a pleasant evening, chalk one up to experience and get over it.

On the flip side, if YOU decide that you really don’t want to try to date her after this, do NOT tell her you’ll call if you’re not going to. Thank her for a pleasant evening, and if she presses the issue just tell her you really don’t think you’re that compatible, don’t have much in common, whatever.

The key to this situation, really, is to be honest. Be honest in how you present yourself. Be honest in what you say. Be honest about what you want. And that last is something we’ll cover in the next installment: I don’t EVER want to hear you say, “But I’m a Nice Guy.”

*Believe it or not, this is a term of endearment.

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Geek Girls Rule Greatest Hits #14 – Attracting Geek Girls Part I

Posted by geekgirlsrule on July 10, 2008

(Originally posted at Media Gauntlet)

Being as I’m a mostly-taken geek girl, the question I get most frequently from my male geek counterparts is, “Do you have a friend you can fix me up with?”

Sometimes I answer “Sure,” sometimes I hesitate, sometimes I answer with an unequivocal “No.”

There are reasons for these answers. “Yes” means I actually do know someone who is single and looking, and I think you’re an acceptable candidate, or maybe even that I’d date you if it were permissible.

“Maybe” means that I mostly find you acceptable and probably might date you myself, but that I don’t have any girls who are currently in the market for hot geek-on-geek action.

“No” means that I wouldn’t touch you with a ten-foot pole,and ,even if I did have single friends, I wouldn’t introduce you to them on a bet. At least not that way.

How do you avoid being in this last category?

Here are a few very basic tips, that honestly I shouldn’t have to iterate here, but given some of my past experiences, I know I do. And, since several people have requested this column, I finally gave in and said, “All right, dead horse, meet my flogger.”

1. Hygiene. All right guys, right up there in the list of things I shouldn’t have to say but do is hygiene. Shower, every day. Use deodorant. If one brand doesn’t work for you, try another, and another. The same goes for soap and shampoo. Everyone’s body chemistry is different and what works for me may well not work for you. Frankly, my husband swears by Secret, all the Ph balance stuff they feed you in the commercials? Ph balance differs more from person to person than between genders, and you can get it in unscented, so don’t worry about smelling girly. Also, brush your teeth. And put odor eaters in your shoes if this is necessary. You don’t want to date girls who are icky and smelly; well, we don’t want to date stinky boys either. And if you’re not sure, ask someone.

Okay, so you don’t stink; now what do we do with you?

2. Clothes. Wear clothing that is clean, relatively neat, fits and represents you well. If that means jeans and vendor tees from work, so be it, as long as they’re clean. If you like ripped jeans and punk rock t-shirts, as long as they’re clean, or at least at a comparable cleanliness level to the girl you’re interested in. If you’re into comic heroes, manga, or gaming t-shirts, for fuck’s sake wash them, but wear them. Take your measurements and buy clothes accordingly. Clothing should not bind, cut or hurt, unless specifically designed to do that.

Human beings are the only species that can change their plumage at will to attract mates. Make sure you’re attracting the right ones. One minor note: t-shirts of women with immense breasts may not go over so well. This is not true for all geek girls, as I’ve noticed that we do have more than the usual percentage of bisexual girls in our numbers, but it is worth noting.

3. Hair. Clean, neat, in good condition. Find a hairstyle that jives with how much effort you want to put in to maintaining it. If you like long hair, great; condition it and brush it. If you like short hair, that’s great too. Just remember: if it takes the hairstylist 20 minutes, gel and a hairdryer to make it look presentable, it’ll probably take you twice as long.

3a. Facial hair. Again. Neat, clean, in good condition. This is a personal taste thing, but really, if you’re going to have the facial hair, make sure you can grow the facial hair and that it’s flattering.

4. The Batcave. Your home, abode, place of residence. Okay, I’m not even talking about sealing the deal and bringing her home. I’m talking about the cleanliness level of where you live and how it effects first impressions when you leave it. If you shower, do laundry and all of the above and your house / apartment / room smells like an armpit roasting in the sun, then that smell will attach itself to your clothes, skin and hair. Clothes and hair, especially are very good at trapping scents. I bartended in smokey nightclubs for several years, and I would have to go home and wash my hair every night, as the stench of cigarette smoke coming from it was just too much to bear. And odds are good you’re spending more time in your home than I did in the clubs or at least your clothes do.

Take out the garbage, clean the catboxes, do the dishes. Besides, if you do all this, that’s one less hurdle to taking the girl home once you do snare her affections.

5. Fingernails. I know this seems like a frivolous, nay even girly, thing to worry about, but I can vouch for the fact that girls care about this. Invest in a nail brush, particularly if you work with your hands and get shit under your nails. Seriously. Stuff under your fingernails can smell bad, and if you do get to some hot geek-on-geek action, can cause infections in your female partner that they won’t thank you for.

Also, file your nails; make sure they’re smooth. Run them over the skin of your cock, or someplace else similarly tender. If it hurts, then start filing, because, if it hurts there, it’ll really hurt on girly tender bits.

In Part II we’ll cover talking to the geek girls, what to say and what not to say.

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